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Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« on: October 24, 2013, 05:58:52 PM »

A little backround on myself. I've been riding for quite a while, 15 year or so, the past 10 of that on sportbikes. Currently im riding on a 98 Honda VTR1000F SuperHawk and I've got the V-twin bug. I'm planning on doing some track days soon with the possibility of running some Wera racing in the future, just for fun, at 30 and with many broken bones in my past I don't think I will have the ability to run fast enough to win races. But i also don't think I need to be going to the track on the VTR, in all honesty it scares the bajesus out of me :lol: I had been looking at getting an SV650 but I just don't like the digital tach, or the fact that they still use the traditional front forks. I like that the GT650R has the USD forks, and movable rearsets, as well as already having the full bodywork.

I'm just wondering if I will be happy with the bike, is the suspension up to snuff? what about the engines? How much abuse can they hold up to? What are things that I need to go ahead and change right away? I'm looking at a wrecked 08 bike that needs valves (and I'm assuming since it was wrecked the valves came undone at speed so the pistons are more than likely shot as well, and maybe the heads damaged) I know the VTR has CCT issues is the Hyosung the same way? do they make a manual tensioner for the bike?

I say street/track bike because Im thinking of selling the VTR and moving on to a Honda ST1100 and keeping a 600 class bike for the track and occasional days with friends in the canyons and mountains. I would be running at Barber and Road Atlanta

Edited to add: I was originally looking at the 250 since WERA has a 250 class but then thought I might not have any fun with it on the street, am I wrong in this assumption? its about an hour and a half ride to the good roads in the area. Plus the 650's are running used almost the same price as the 250's in my area
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Re: Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 11:19:09 PM »

As long as it's 2008 and onwards, the Hyo engines are quite solid. The earlier models have valve guide issues that can have explosive results.

The main issues with the Hyosung 650's are electrical. A reg/rec upgrade is recommended and if you're revving the ass off it all day, then the stator is likely to shit itself also.

The wheels on the Hyosung are solid steel. Inappropriate for race use, but outstanding at resisting buckling. If you want to track it, you will need to find and fit lighter rims. There are no plug and play rims, you will need to have custom made spacers created.

The suspension on the Hyosung 650's is not outstanding, but certainly not bad. Drain the fork oil and re-fill the forks with a good quality 10W fork oil. The rear shock is a weakness. Racetech make after market suspension for the Hyosung 650s and with decent suspension and stock rims, there are people on this forum who are mixing it with the big boys and winning. It all depends on how much money you want to throw at it. As with any bike, the best dollars are spent on suspension, light wheels and track rubber.
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Re: Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 12:08:02 AM »

The wheels aren't steel, they're bloddy heavy but they're still alloy.
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Re: Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 12:52:45 AM »

Yes. ..an alloy of steel and depleted uranium. Possibly some lead, with a little of the same ultra dense cheese that the bolts are made of. Forged in a flame fuelled with compressed voided warranty cards. As a flux, they use a touch of youthful hopes and aspirations.
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Re: Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 02:48:09 AM »

As a flux, they use a touch of crushed youthful hopes and aspirations.

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Re: Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 03:07:33 AM »

The wheels on the Hyosung are solid steel. Inappropriate for race use, but outstanding at resisting buckling. If you want to track it, you will need to find and fit lighter rims. There are no plug and play rims, you will need to have custom made spacers created.

I read somewhere on here that some Triumph alloys will fit without modification. Can't remember if it was Street or Speed Triple, but it's one of those two. I'm not saying it's definitely true, just opening up a lead you may follow.
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Re: Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 03:08:57 AM »

yeah, that was a white elephant.
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Re: Track/Street potential of the 650R?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 04:29:59 PM »

I'm not planning on winning any races or being very fast.. I just want to be out there and have fun. There aren't a lot of moto track days very close to me that I would be able to go to in a year, but if I run WERA races there are a lot of "club" style races that I could go to through the year and more than double the amount of track time I could have which is why I was considering it. I'm not going to dump a lot of stupid money at the bike, but I may respring and valve the forks if there is an available option and upgrade the rear shock, as well as good rubber and as I have a friend with a machine shop that does nothing but build race engines (for cars, but he's already worked a couple of motorcycle heads for me and done amazing work) I'm going to have him polish the intake and exhaust ports for me and do some valve work if necessary.
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